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Commons:Photo challenge Multilingualism modifitgar

Cartelli bilingue? feste di Paese? Eventi culturali seri? Sbizzarritevi: Bilingual plate? Local festivals? Serious cultural events? Be creative:

commons:Commons:Photo_challenge/Submitting#2017_.E2.80.93_February_.E2.80.93_Multilingualism

Più bella la foto, maggiore la diffusione. Si vince solo un gagliardetto. The nicer the picture, the bigger its diffusion. You just win a barnstar.--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:04, 2 favrer 2017 (CET)

Thanks @Alexmar983:! I just dug through my old travel photos and found a few :) Thanks for the info! --Terfili (talk) 18:49, 18 favrer 2017 (CET)
Thanks to you Terfili!--Alexmar983 (talk) 05:09, 19 favrer 2017 (CET)

Pagina sin facebook modifitgar

Jeu hai uss entschiet ina pagina sin facebook per far in tec dapli publicitad tar ils "fans" dalla vichipedia romontscha. Sch'enzatgi less star administratur da questa pagina per far posts da temp en temp, lura dueis vus mo scriver in messadi a questa pagina da facebook: www.facebook.com/Vichipediarumantscha. --Terfili (talk) 12:22, 22 mars 2017 (CET)

WikiCon 2017 modifitgar

Hallo zusammen. Die WikiCon 2017 findet vom 8. bis zum 10. September 2017 in Leipzig statt, schaut unter de:Wikipedia:WikiCon 2017. Mittlerweile wurde der Call for papers eröffnet. Bis zum 15. Juni können Beiträge eingereicht werden. --Holder (talk) 07:31, 2 matg 2017 (CEST)

m:Requests for comment/Global centralnotice for the blockade of the Turkish government modifitgar

Hi, you are invited to participate in the discussion on the proposal to make a banner through m: centralnotice to inform more people around the world about what the Turkish government has done about Wikipedia, ie all the language versions of Wikipedia are You are obscured, so in Turkey it is impossible to view the * .wikipedia.org site. To hope that the Turkish government will remove the block, it is necessary to raise awareness of this fact around the world because it is important to succeed in this mission because Wikipedia can not be seen in Turkey. With this message also for those interested, I invite him to sign the Wikimedian appeal.

If you have any questions or questions do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks best regards. --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 23:21, 15 zercladur 2017 (CEST)

Discussion about which fallback would suit Romansh better modifitgar

Hilf bitte mit, in deine Sprache zu übersetzen

Hello Romansh Wikipedia. Sorry for not being able to use Romansh as I do not speak it. We're wondering at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169436 which language fallback would suit better Romansh projects. As of now, untranslated MediaWiki messages are being shown in English, which is not closer nor similar to Romansh. You can decide, however, that MediaWiki, in case of an untranslated message, displays it in other languages that might be closer or similar to allow better understanding. In this case, we're discussing whether if Friulian, Ladin and Italian would be good choices.

Please let us know what do you think about this.

Regards, --MarcoAurelio (talk) 17:49, 1 fanadur 2017 (CEST)


Cars collegas, haveis vus ina opiniun sur quei? Sche vus haveis buc capiu, quei ei il problem:

L’interfatscha d'utilisader per romontsch vegn inseriu d'il "translate wiki". Perquei ch'ei dat leu paucas novas translaziuns per romontsch, duei la software da Mediawiki dovrar messadis en in auter lungatg. Els dian per quei "fallback language". Mumentan ei quest lungatg il engles. Per exempel han els remplazzau il messadi "memorisar" cun in niev messadi, e quest messadi ei uss en engles ("Publish changes").

Nus savein aber midar questa "fallback language". En questa discussiun sin il phabricator ein vegnius proponius principalmein il talian, il tudestg, u da far vinavon cun igl engles. Per principi dat ei er auters pusseivladads, sco per exempel igl aleman (tudestg svizzer), il piemunteis, il lumbard, il franzos, il ladin da las Dolomitas, il friulan… u bein auters.

Jeu proponel da votar sin questa damonda. Actualmein havein nus neginas directivas per ils dretgs da votar. Jeu proponel questas directivas:

  • La persuna ha creau in account d'utilisader dapi ina jamna avon l'entschatta dalla votaziun.
  • L’utilisader ha fatg silmeins diesch contribuziuns nun-revocadas en paginas da contegn.

Jeu proponel da votar tochen il fin d’il meins, il 31 da fenadur. --Terfili (talk) 14:08, 6 fanadur 2017 (CEST)

Ed alura, cars e caras @Andreas:, @Alberta2:, @Benriac:, @Cayne Wolf:, @Contedelavie:, @Courriel12:, @Cratschla:, @D.Camenisch:, @Eloi Contesse ACV:, @ErsTina67:, @Gion-andri:, @Grusaida:, @IlsValladrins:, @Kalikut:, @LaiL55:, @MooRtje:, @Norray:, @Panda17:, @Rubadur:, @Swiss79~rmwiki:, @Terracotta:, @TranslaTeam:, @Werner Carigiet: e tut ils auters, tgei manegeis vus? Haveis vus negina opiniun da quei u essas vus tuts grad en vacanzas u haveis vus buc peda da participar en questa votaziun? U bein haveis vus tema d’exprimer vossa opiniun u manegeis vus che vus haveis buc il dretg da participar en tallas discussiuns u s’interesseis vus simplamein buc per questa damonda? Ei la cuminonza dalla vichipedia romontscha cumplettamein morta? U ha ella mai existiu?

Era sche vus s’interesseis buc per questa tematic, eis ei impurtont da mussar che la vichipedia romontscha sa prender decisiuns sez! Sch‘ils vichipedianers romontschs decidan buc sez, lura decidan halt enqualins sviluppaders da software u birocrats dalla Wikimedia co ei mondi vinavon cun la vichipedia romontscha! --Terfili (talk) 13:53, 25 fanadur 2017 (CEST)

Votaziun modifitgar

Tgeinina lingua duei vegnir duvrada sco lingua da “fallback” sin la vichipedia rumantscha? Vus saveis votar cun ils models {{encunter}} u {{persuenter}}.

englais modifitgar

  1.   Encunter, betg mintga rumantsch anclei angles.--Capricorn4049 (talk) 01:28, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  2.   Encunter, --Terfili (talk) 16:10, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  3.   Encunter, --Xenos
  1.   Persuenter, normal el mund dal computer -- 87.3.132.237 14:50, 10 fanadur 2017
  2.   Encunter, --Giancarlolozza
  3.   Persuenter, Engles ha fetg bia elements latins neu dil franzos. Ideal! Usitau e modern.--Cayne Wolf--Cayne Wolf (talk) 18:25, 25 Settember 2017 (CEST)

tudestg modifitgar

  1.   Persuenter, mintga rumantsch alclei er tudestg. Er ainten igl radio e la televisiun rumantscha vign translato sch'ensatgi rascunge p.ex. d'en interview angles u taliang, ma betg sch'ensatgi discorra tudestg.--Capricorn4049 (talk) 01:28, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  2.   Persuenter, jeu sun dalla medema opiniun sco Capricorn4049. --Terfili (talk) 16:10, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  3.   Persuenter, era jeu sun tuttafat dall' opiniun sco utilisader Capricorn4049. --Xenos
  1.   Encunter, tudestg n'ha pers nagut silla vichipedia rumantscha -- 87.3.132.237 14:53, 10 fanadur 2017
  2.   Persuenter, er ia sung digl meini da Capricorn4049. --Giancarlolozza
  3.   Encunter, duvrar tudestg sco punt denter lungatgs latins ei problematic --Cayne Wolf--Cayne Wolf (talk) 18:25, 25 Settember 2017 (CEST)

talian modifitgar

  1.   Encunter, betg mintga rumantsch anclei taliang.--Capricorn4049 (talk) 01:28, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  2.   Encunter, --Terfili (talk) 16:10, 7 fanadur 2017 (CEST)
  3.   Encunter, talian n'ha pers nagut silla vichipedia rumantscha -- 87.3.132.237 14:55, 10 fanadur 2017
  4.   Encunter, --Xenos
  5.   Encunter, --Giancarlolozza
  6.   Persuenter, capeschel zuar buca talian, mo fuss in lungatg latin.--Cayne Wolf--Cayne Wolf (talk) 18:25, 25 Settember 2017 (CEST)

API "transclusion" of romansh texts here modifitgar

I'm going to do some test of "transclusion" here of romansh texts presently hosted into it.wikisource, following a talk there. I'll use only my user page and its subpages, texts coming from this page: it:s:Wikisource:Testi in romancio. --Alex brollo (talk) 18:17, 3 avust 2017 (CEST)

Thanks Alex brollo! Feel free to also experiment in the mainspace or wikipedia subspace if you have to and let me know if you need any admin action. --Terfili (talk) 21:43, 3 avust 2017 (CEST)
Thanks to you for your welcome and permission. Presently I only need a unique prefix for transcluded pages - temporary prefix is Utilisader:Alex brollo/text/ - then the only action to do will be to create an almost empty prefix+it.wikisource page name to be shown. The unique prefix will shot the importing script. You can run the test js code and the test css code simply adding this code to your Utilisader:Terfili/common.js page:
importScript("Utilisader:Alex brollo/common.js");
importStylesheet("Utilisader:Alex brollo/common.css");
I'm going to test that code on my second socket-puppy account Utilisader:Alex brollo bis. --Alex brollo (talk) 23:05, 3 avust 2017 (CEST)
Yes it runs :-) --Alex brollo bis (talk) 23:10, 3 avust 2017 (CEST)
Now please take a look to this test page: Wikisource:Testi in romancio. It doesn't exists. But, when scripts run, it is a non-existing page.... full of contents. Very inspiring, isn't it? --Alex brollo (talk) 06:37, 4 avust 2017 (CEST)
Looks interesting! Now I'm assuming this can in principle also be made to work without users having to create that .css page (i.e. even for anonymous readers)? --Terfili (talk) 17:11, 5 avust 2017 (CEST)
Oh, and another question: would it be possible to use those transcluded pages within a Wikibook, including of course the download function (e.g. as Utilisader:D.Camenisch/Cudeschs/L'um ch'ha pers sia sumbriva/Translaziun is used within Wikipedia:Cudeschs/L'um ch'ha pers sia sumbriva)? --Terfili (talk) 17:28, 5 avust 2017 (CEST)
Some news. The same script has been loaded into it.wikiversity and it runs. While testing a slightly different version has been developed, with two changes, that have been imported back here:
  • the needed css has been moved into a different file, here Utilisader:Alex brollo/ipt.css. that is loaded only if transclusion is triggered, so avoiding any need of the code importStylesheet("Utilisader:Alex brollo/common.css");;
  • the code structure has been wrapped into an "iffy", so avoiding any spread of "garbage" (variables, functions) into main javascript namespace (this is a little bit "techno" perhaps, but I guess that it will be appreciated by your developers).
As before you can see "transcluded pages" both if they exists or not; can any of you write a simple info box, explaining what is happening when a "transcluded page" is visualized?
Next step could be, to extend transclusion to mulwikisource, so allowing the visualization of those texts too. Just to simplify the code, a good prefix for mulwikisource text could be Mulwikisource:. Alex brollo (talk) 23:59, 8 avust 2017 (CEST)

Texts rumantschs da Wikisource modifitgar

Cars e caras collegas da vichipedia,

Perdunei per miu romontsch miserabel, aber jeu sperel che vus rispundis malgrad 😊

Jeu vuless reprender questa discussiun sin ils texts romontsch da Wikisource. Sin il Wikisource talian ha actualmein liug ina discussiun davart quei.

Dapresent dat ei texts romontschs en silmeins treis liugs:

Questa situaziun ei in tec caotic. Pervia da quei proponel jeu da fusiunar ils texts en in liug. Jeu tertgel ch’ei dat dus pusseivladads:

  • Fusiunar tut ils texts romontschs tar il Wikisource multiling + far ina proposta sin Meta per in agen project da Wikisource Rumantsch (mo quei drova normalamein biars onns...)
  • Crear novs tips da pagina (per engles “namespace”) cheu tar rm.wikipedia.org. Lura vegnan ils texts romontschs memorisadas per exempel sco Text:xyz. Per principi savein nus era crear tips da pagina per Wikibooks (per exemplel Cudesch:xyz) e per Wiktionary (p.ex Pled:xyz). Quei havein nus fatg tar la vichipedia aleman (Text:Houptsyte, Buech:Houptsyte, Wort:Houptsyte).

Jeu persunalmein manegel ch’il meglier fuss da fusiunar tut cheu tar novs tips da paginas. Aschi fuss ei pusseival da patrugliar tut en in liug, da mettar links fetg semplamein, e d’integrar ils texts en cudischs senza la necessitad da copiar ils texts primarmein (D.Camenisch, forsa enzatgei interessant per tei?). La disavantatg ei ch'ei fuss ina breigia d'importar tut las paginas, models, etc. Aber jeu hai era nuot cunter in agen Wikisource Rumantsch, sch’ina maioritad dals utilisaders giavischa quei.

Ina tiarza pusseivladad fuss da fusiunar tut tar il Wikisource talian. Igl Utilisader Ilario dalla Wikimedia Svizra manegia che quei ei la megliera soluziun. El di che la cuminonza da vichipedia romontscha seigi buc avunda activa per sustener in project da Wikisource (ed el ha aunc auters raschuns che vus saveis legier en questa discussiun tar it.wikisource). Jeu ditgel quei plitost mo per buc zuppar questa proposiziun. Igl Alex Brollo ha giu aunc ina idea interessanta: Utilisader:Alex brollo/Interproject visualization.

Also, tgei ei vossa meini davart quei? --Terfili (talk) 19:42, 5 avust 2017 (CEST)

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